>> absolutely. we cannot underestimate the role of partners of menn and dads in this conversation and in this movement, when you think about it, there is no one who is more impacted than the fathers and the partners that are coming home from these hospitals without their partners left to raise their families on their own there's no reason that men should not be part of this. we need to lift up their stories and we need to help educate menn on their role as advocates for their partners who are going through one of the biggest transitional moments and most vulnerable times in our lives. >> of course it's not just asked you got so many other partners who are stepping in to help these families and all kinds of different ways. >> we can't list them >> all now, but just to show people, there's a lot that's going on behind the scenes and every single person has a role in doing something about it. elaine voltron. thank you so much. for being here. it's been just such an honor and a

privilege to work with this on this with you that can keep for your support >> and you can >> watch my full report on black maternal health for the whole story with anderson cooper. that episode is available now streaming on max thank you very much for watching news night. laura coates live starts right now >> all right. day two, and we've got seven jurors and one defense didn't who's already gotten a reprimand from the judge. i'll take you inside donald trump's criminal trial plus our phone line is open. i'll be answering your calls and your questions about the while in just a moment. but wait, the next part might be inconceivable carry l with from the princess bride is here in 3d with me tonight on laura coates live all right, forget the number two, 70 for a second during this election year, it's all going to come down for later. donald trump right

now to 12 people, 12 new yorkers who will decide the fate of the former president the united states, in a historic criminal case brought against him. and they already got seven jurors chosen day. that means five more to go to get to that number 12, but they just can't stop there. they've got to get to see six alternate jurors for a total of 18. and don't think for a moment that donald trump is not keenly aware that each of these people hold his at least fate for now in their hands. >> do you believe that the jury after well, today in that courtroom, trump while he was a little bit of trouble. again, with the judge, why will this time over a potential juror who's facebook post included video i'm celebrations in new york after joe biden's 2020 win, which the juror told the court reminded her of a celebratory moment like the covid era cheer for health care workers. the juror saying,

quote, is very, very strongly believed that regardless of my thoughts about anyone or anything, political feelings or convictions at the job of a juror is to understand the facts of a trial and be the judge of those specs >> while trump's team, >> fed and tried to dismiss her prosecutors argued against the dismissal and the judge frankly agree with the prosecutors, but then there was a moment of fireworks after that juror apparently left the courtroom. judge merchan reprimanded trump for his behavior, apparently speaking and gesturing in some way in the direction of the juror telling trump's attorney, your client was audibly uttering. i will not have any jurors intimidated in the courtroom. now, trump's team got a win when the dredge agreed to dismiss another potential juror, who's facebook post celebrated trump losing a court battle over his travel ban and said, referring to trump, quote, get them out and lock him up lock him up. now

that sounds familiar, doesn't it >> yeah i agree. with you. i used to just be quiet and i agree with you 100% of all people donald trump is seeking juror does something he's never really had himself. it cleans social media history just this morning, he posted about the judge in his trial calling him conflicted trump hating. he went on to take a swipe and swing at new york's justice system and to throw around accusations of election interference. and of course, all caps rigged unconstitutiona l trial. he's posted about witnesses in this trial like it's former fixer, michael cohen and stormy daniels, the adult film star and director says that she had an affair with trump he denies that completely. he also called them and i'm quoting here two sleazebags. he called cohen and a former prosecutor in the

da's office thugs and prosecutors have asked the judge to hold trump in contempt for violating the gag order prohibiting him from talking about witnesses. by way, that's all that it's only date to, you realize, i want to bring in devlin barrett. he's a law enforcement reporter at the washington post office. the coauthor of the trump trials newsletter, and was in the courtroom today. also here, brian jacobs, former federal prosecutor, and rounded got my all-star panel. james scholz, seen a little commentator and former trump white house lawyer, glad to have you you all here as first me get to you here, brian, because look, we are just now getting these courtroom transcripts from today and there's a lot of color in it. i should say, and thinking about this, there were a lot of moments, in fact, where the judge was very clear about his expectations defense counsel prosecution. it's battling it out to figure throughout who could be deemed impartial and who is not what stuck out to you. >> so a couple of things stuck out to me. >> one, >> a lot of the jurors really do seem to understand the

importance and the gravity of what they're doing. one juror said she couldn't sleep the night before, just thinking about not her views of trump and not her views of the facts, but just the significance of what this trial is going to be for the country that stands out. a lot of these jurors are clearly already west wrestling with what their roles might be in this process. and the other thing that stuck out is just you know, everyone knows who trump is. there's no even the folks who said positive things about him, set it in sort of a light-hearted, but a little worrisome way. they said, he says what he thinks my mother taught me to say nice things. and so i don't do that i think this jury is this jury as it's coming together, is really wrestling with how do you judge a president? how do you judge? someone that in theory we all think we know, but or is it going to be the center of this case? >> i keep looking back and our time at trials novice have tried cases of course, and thought about these matters. it's a lot of intuition, a lot of human psychology and study of body language. otherwise, and really trying to identify a

con artist who wants to maybe be on the jury for whatever reasons and others who are giving you what you want to hear and reality might be a self juror either way. well, you were listening to all there was unfolding today when what was your impression? >> i was impressed by how fast at all when, or how little information came out for the lawyers to go on and how nothing all that surprising or unusual really happened. there were no particular fireworks. there were a handful of instances where the trump team asked for a jury to be struck for caused the judge didn't do it. that can be an appeal lsu and they had to strike the juror with a peremptory. but other than that, it was a relatively routine day of jury selection that resulted in seven jurors being sat, which is pretty fast. >> was that fast to you as well? people have been making a big stink, including trump by the way, does suggest that he couldn't possibly get an impartial jury in manhattan? i point, of course, that there was at least one juror today who was excused, not because he was so anti-trump, but because

he said that he seemed to be partial towards him and didn't think he could truly be unbiased. and that would have actually benefited him. so there's at least one you got that going for you as they say are you surprised and seven were able to found no, i wasn't surprised at all. the fundamental fairness is about folks wanting to participate in this process. it's about people coming forward and look. yes, some people want to be part of the process and will be eager and sometimes overly eager to be part of the process. and that's for the lawyers and the judge. and the judge to sort out. but i think at the end of the de the seven that were seated we're pretty expected biographies at the end of the day of folks of new yorkers that you thought would be seated on a jury. >> let's go through what we know about some of these jurors here, everyone. so you had four women. >> you've got >> three, menn three women, and in khaliji nurse and it professional, some married something no single, lots of new york times reader, who was the most interesting jury for you? the law >> so i thought it was interesting to see that there's only one juror who is

a little bit older has kids, has a job the most of the other jurors, they're younger, they don't have kids, they're starting out in their professional lives. >> why does that matter to you? well, a lot of >> times the prototypical prosecutor juror is somebody middle age lives in the suburbs, although not in this case and has a job in this case. >> younger jurors tend to >> skew, that tends to be who the defense looks four. and so in some ways, this group could be seen as a trump victory. >> now why would that be a younger person? in favor of the defense? and part by the way, the younger they are, the more likely as they didn't even recall, access hollywood tape eight years ago, trump's earlier career. >> i think it's you have to look at the history, some college-educated, so not caught some, some have some college education. i think the age part of it. i don't i think the one that really interested me the most is the felon, the first store, the one from ireland who came, came to the united states, was born in ireland. we

don't know what that is an immigrants are not a probably has family that's that is irish comes to this country, has some education in sales, somewhat of a blue collar background, if you will, watch his fox news, watch this msnbc for the news that's your swing vote, if you will, if you're looking at this jury pool, i think you're looking at that person and saying, is this person a donald trump person? is this person not a donald trump? ours is it? >> it's just somebody who where do they fit in that if you look at it from a jury and an electorate perspective, that's your swing voter as trimming the idea of how we're building it can be what you're watching and how you get some information that was obviously very telling for the trump and the prosecution team but let's just talk about this moment in the courtroom when the judge i think waits for a jury to leave after being questioned about this celebratory video of sorts. >> and trump >> is audibly uttering. that sounds like consciously uncoupling, translate that to

english. what was he doing to be audibly uttering? >> so one of the things trump one of i think trump's challenges in court, having watched him in the e jean carroll case as well in federal court, is that he seems to have two main settings in court. in one setting is angry and the other setting is bored and neither of those settings are great for a jury and i think what you saw at that moment was a little bit of the anger coming out because he clearly believes his lawyers argument that this person has no business being judging him. but i think the difficulty for his legal team is trump presents often in court as own as either one of those two things. and those are not particularly sympathetic things for the jury, for the jury to look at. and i think that is going to be a continuing difficulty or challenge. for his legal team to try to he's its physical space with them. he can't be just those two things all the time. and have a chance of winning this case. >> he's under a microscope. you know that right >> i agree with that. i think

some of that some of the campaign donald trump needs to come out in the courtroom if he's going to be successful here is to remember look at them like he looks at voters, right? he's trying to attract votes from a jury at the end of the day. and in this particular instance, the bristling, if you will. and pointing or whatever it is he's doing and making the utterances he's making is not helping himself, right? he needs to be the person that he is on the cam campaign trail because that's where his successes lied over the years. so i think he needs do same thing in a courtroom. >> i make his lawyers, you think possibly convince him to do that, even if it's in his best interest. >> well absolutely. he does seem to have a good rapport with his lawyers from all the reports. i mean, of course, he is entitled to participate in his defense. he's entitled to talk to his lawyers and it's difficult to tell from the reports just how aggressive he was clearly, the judge was concerned and the judge has to step in when when that happens. but he does present as need to talk with his lawyers as so

counterintuitive to people though, because when you think about how would you react if you thought that you were innocent of a crime? would you sit there and be poised and compose or would you try with your body language so how odd this was, how incredulous you felt, how irritated is this? balancing act, right? you have to play if you're the defendant and certainly he knows how to be a performance artist, whether the judge likes are not devlin, brian and james stick around, please. there are still a lot of questions about the trial and we're going to answer some of them right now live. we've got your questions, of course, if you want to participate, just go to cnn.com slash trump trial questions, fill out the form, typing your question there, and then we'll reach out to you and had your collin as the trial unfolds, let's get to our first caller tonight. we've got robert from ohio, robert, what's your question? >> hi, laura. love your show. thank you. so my question is in terms of the upcoming trial regarding the former president why is the jury selection and

whether they can be impartial being questioned so much. there has been many very high profile trials where everyone has been so they will be judged by a selection of your peers. is this special treatment or does every american get this level of scrutiny for potential jurors for a fair trial. >> that's a great question, robert. and thank you so much for calling in. you know, there's a lot of attention on this case because of the high profile nature of the actual defendant to really test to see whether or not it's an honor system, so to speak, or one that you can actually have a jury of one's peers. i think this is going to be a real challenge for people without having cameras in the courtroom to understand what the nature of the white deer process is like. it's not the first time someone's questioned whether a jury telling the truth when they are talking about their views or absence of bias, but it will be the real test of our justice system to figure out if people have continued trust in that prospect. let's hear from you all out there as well. and second, brian from evanston, illinois. what's your question? >> hi, laura and fell down the panel. thanks for taking my

question i'm curious if the prosecution deems it necessary, can they put trump on the stand for examination? and if not, why not? >> that's, a great question, brian, what's your thought >> no >> defendants have a fifth amendment right under the constitution not to be a witness against themselves that's true of president trump, just as is true of any other defendant and so he can't be called to testify against himself. of course. you can. if you wants to, in the defense case and they have this sandoval hearing as well, which is you to new york where before the trial you get a sense of what is the scope of the cross examination like, what am i walking into from a defendant here to figure out do i want to do this, do i not? but you have until really the defense's case is put on to figure out if you want to do it, neither from new jersey. what's your question >> hi, laura. thank you for taking my call. and it's a pleasure to speak with you. thank you. my question is will background checks be done on the 12 plus the six alternate chosen jurors

>> well, so far we certainly seen that they know how to find their social media post has been a part of all the conversations today, whether it's facebook or otherwise, insert defense has every invested interest in figuring out who might be on this panel. what do you think james? >> the court administration and the court administrators make those determinations? there's not a background check process for that. they have a process by which they select jurors from the particular jurisdiction, and it has nothing to do with a background check, if you will. it has to do with quality the to be to be a juror. >> and of course, the qualifications people to know out there what they really are. you gotta think we 18 years of age you cannot have been convicted of a felony in new york. and of course, this is a class e felony case for donald trump 34 counts with a maximum penalty for each of four years. accumulating if you work things out of all of them in a 20 year sentence. if not obviously probation or some other combination of things. let's go to heather from severe ville, tennessee. heather, what's your

question? >> hi, laura, i love you so much. >> thank >> thank you. would trump's lawyers ever take the risk in allowing and unfair like sleeper juror to get selected on purpose. so they can make an attempt to them this trial later on to delay the trial pack, the election gosh, you know, i've heard a lot about this, this idea of a sleeper juror or the stealth juror or other synonyms describe somebody who's trying to say what they need to say to get >> onto the jury panel with the hope of maybe being the one to swing the jury in one direction or another, or maybe even hang the case the thing about it is you've got to have 12 jurors and then six additional alternate jurors who are there in case there's any violation of a court order, the judge will instruct about what they can and cannot do during the duration of the actual trial. so if there is one so-called sleeper juror, they've got to contemplate maybe five additional ones are a total of 17 others, if figure out who that would be, that's quite a

game of russian roulette, as you would say on this issue. but there is every possible way that there is someone on the jury panel who is seated right now or might be who has a different interests the job with the prosecution and the defense council and the judge really is to figure out whether there are genuinely answered questions about impartiality on that very point, we turn to you though on this because that's one of the concerns inside the courtroom, is it not that someone there is just trying to people please smile their way and then have some their hands behind their back >> right? there was an >> amazing moment, i think in the prosecution presentation today and the prosecution basically laid out a set of things that were posed as questions about how they could be impartial. but really what he was suggesting was a set of answers for the jurors to offer about their impartiality. the prosecutor said, this isn't about politics. we don't care what you think about you know, him, him as a politician, we care what you think of the facts and the evidence. and yes, he was presenting that to them and arguing that that was important and asking them if they could do that. but he was

also laying out a roadmap for how they could answer those questions in a way that would not give up bounce from the jury. and i thought that was a fascinating back in before it through today, really important, heather, i have a question for you, by the way, while you're on the line still, you actually voted for trump. i understand in 2016, it changed your mind after charlottesville, do you think that one's political opinion of trump might have an impact where they could be a fair jury i would hope not. one of the reasons that i pray he doesn't get back into office is he obviously doesn't respect our institutions and as much as i don't like him, i would hold myself to a very high standard of riemann meaning impartial, because nobody deserves to be found guilty when they're innocent, not even trump >> this is the rub for everyone i met courtroom today. thank you so much, brian and james also. and devlin. thank you, everyone for helping to answer the questions and thanks

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had no idea about it. they say she was scammed into going there to pick up a package and the dashcam video, you can hear hall plead for her life before brock shatter >> i know what how did not survive brock has been charged with murder and pleaded not guilty cnn correspondent danny

freeman and cnn legal analyst joey jackson, join us now. danny, this is such a tragedy and people hearing about this maybe for the first time, walk us through what happened before shooting and this scam >> yet laura, such a tragedy and really storing that hits so many people for so many different reasons, but make no mistake. law enforcement at this point believed that both of these two people, these two strangers, were part of this larger scam. now investigators say like you said, william brock, he was actually received getting calls from a scammer who told him that his nephew was in jail, and brock needed to take out $12,000 in cash in order to bail his nephew out, and none of that was true. >> but >> according to investigators, brock actually, while he was talking to this scammer, he actually was hesitant. he was resistant at times, and it was then where brock says the scammers starting to threatened his life and also threatened his nephews life. meanwhile, the same time police say the same scammer or an accomplice

of that scammer contacted lolita hall, like you said, through uber and said go over to brockhaus and pick up a package that's when the shooting started. brock told police that he thought lolita was coming there are to harm him and to take that money. but laura, i mean, take a listen to the 911 call that brock placed right after he ultimately shot and killed lolita why did you do that? >> because i was threatened that she was going to kill me. she threatened to kill, you know, is the guy on the phone? finally, get money out of my now it's really important to note, laura, you see on the video, investigators said that ms hall made no threats, no assaults, no demands, know anything other than just asked for the package that she was told to pick up by uber police said there was no threat ever posed by ms hall, and that's part of the reason why mr. brock was charged with murder.

he pleaded not guilty, but the one other thing i'll add, laura, is that uber, they actually provide a statement to us about this, saying this is a horrific tragedy in our hearts continued to be with low lithos loved ones as they grieve they're cooperating with investigators in this case, laura, this is truly unbelievable, joey, i mean, ohio for those wondering, ohio has what's called a stand your ground law. but the state's concealed carry manuals as quote, if the defendant escalated the confrontation by throwing the first punch, attacking are drawing a handgun. the defendant is the agreement professor. so given that this person may have been scammed, but ultimately did shoot this person, this woman who just tried to come and pick up a package, does brock have a viable stand your defense at all? >> no. laura, good to be with you and danny. here's the reality. stand your ground means you have no duty to retreat. what was he retreating from? this is a person who apparently was acting certainly out of concern based upon the threat, but i think it was too

much of a concern. we don't have vigilantes in this country, at least we shouldn't we have professional police officers if you think you're getting scam, you called the police, you take those steps. if you look at the bodycam, laura, i don't see the threat that was posed as danny noted, there was no threat, much less no immediate threat, which is what you need for self-defense. and so stand your ground in the event that he was an imminent fear of a threat or attack would be viable well, he would not have to retreat, but there's no stand your ground when in fact, you're the first aggressor. and so i don't think that's going to apply. i think he's the charges are appropriate and i think the scammers, if found will be brought to justice as well under a felony murder rule, as you know, if the commission of another felony, the scamming or there's some other involuntary manslaughter rule tragedy by all accounts, the shooting did not have to occur. there will other alternatives. they were not used. >> i mean, it's an unbelievable story i thinking about the victims, victimization of an allele, this woman was 61 years old,

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charging him with obstruction. that's important to note that fish are also faces six other charges is happening from that vary de, but the justices, they debated at length how but literally to read the law that was written 20 years ago after the enron scandal and the law criminalize the destruction of document that would impede an investigation. but also says is the important part or otherwise obstructs influences or impedes any official proceeding or attempts to do so. the big question for the court should the law which carries a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison be applied to january 6. defendants who didn't necessarily destroy documents, but work convicted of obstructing the certification of the election. here's justice sotomayor, questioning the defense on that point. >> let me give you an example there is a sign on a theater. you will be kicked out of the theater if you photograph for record the actors or otherwise

disrupt the performance if you start yelling, i think no one would question that you can be expected to be kicked out under this policy even though yelling has nothing to do with photograph or recording back with me now. >> devlin barrett, brian >> jacobson, james scholz, >> begin with you here. >> the justices surprise, surprise, perhaps appear to be split along ideological lines here sure. which way is it going to go from your reading of oral arguments? >> well, i think based on oral arguments and the fact that the conservatives have a 6-3 advantage on the court. i think the conservatives have a lot of questions and doubts and skepticism about this law. and they have shown over a bunch of years skepticism about the application of this kind of law that the conservative justices don't like what they view as a sort of ever expanding use of the obstruction statutes. and they view this as a possible

misuse and overuse. and obviously that has tremendous implications potentially for the general you already six cases and if they go broadly, if they rule very brawley and tough on this law, it could even have implications for the trump case. >> i mean, brayan vera's the title of a statute. right. and there's the ways you could apply it why wouldn't it fall? well into the or otherwise impede beyond you're talking about non destruction of documents. why not read it more broadly? >> well, the one subsection of the statute says that you can obstruct an official proceeding by tampering with evidence and then the other section says you can't do it, otherwise and the idea is that tampering with evidence has to modify the otherwise clause two, so that even under that clause, the only thing that's unlawful is doing something that relates to evidence tampering, and that's the reading that many justices today's seem to be getting out with their questions it's not looking at it in a vacuum and following what the actual intent of the law may be, i wonder, listen to what justice

gorsuch had to say james today, because he appeared to argue >> that this could apply beyond january 6 in detrimental ways. listen to this what does sit in that disrupts the trial for access to a federal courthouse qualify what a >> heckler in today's audience qualify we're at the state of the union address. would pulling a fire alarm before a vote qualify for 20 years in federal prison. >> now, when you have a string of hypotheticals, obviously they all become rhetorical questions for adjusted. do you agree that these would be things that should not happen under the obstruction or if could that be prosecuted? >> well, i think the schult general actually said all the officers and so general actually said that no, these would not fall under that category it. made, the argument that there has to be something more. and then in this case, they made the example of our people arming themselves and going in and trying to obstruct. and i think justice

kavanaugh came back and said, okay, well, in that instance, isn't charging with assault, isn't charging with civil disorder? for isn't that enough? and i think that's where the conservative justices are going here. they think this is a far overreach, almost leighton overcharge, almost of this case. and that's what justice kavanaugh was getting at. but certainly an overreach as it relates to the interpretation of what the more liberal justices are calling a catch-all phrase well, you know, brian, interestingly enough, this one person who is before the court is i think six other charges against him. this has been one of them, but jack smith is also basing an indictment against donald trump that includes two charges out of a total, i think of four that would be very significant if the justices say that this is an overreach we application, it would be accepted both justice jackson and justice barrett suggested there questionings are reading of the statute, even a narrow reader reading that says that the otherwise clause includes only

evidence tampering could still apply to the january 6 cases because those cases, of course, relate to the electoral count which involves documents and the effort going into the capital and interfering with those documents could fall even within a narrow reading of that clause. >> so you think you're good impact a possible dismissal of those charges against trump if they were to find that an overreach for fischer, it would necessarily apply to everyone you suggest. >> i think the charges against trump would have to be modified in some way to accommodate whatever the supreme court says. but it is possible. and jack smith has essentially said this in papers that there's a way to modify the charges to fit what the supreme court might do here, modify and then what happens to a trial date if it's ever set? >> well, i think then that kicks it down the road even farther. you're gonna have more appeals. but i also think he was looking jack smith specifically referenced the fake electors scheme as it relates to this particular statute and its applicability. there >> politically, look at this. trump has already called the january 6 defendants hostages. he's talked about them being

heroic actors in some respects where i'm obviously paraphrasing here. if the supreme court finds that there was an overreach by the prosecutorial decisions that is ample ammunition to validate his statements in his mind >> right. and look, if if the supreme court agrees, in a sense that the justice department has overcharged and over prosecuted january 6, that is unquestionably giving some ammunition to president trump and to a bunch of republicans who have made similar arguments about how this case has been handled. >> it is to >> your earlier point though it is really important to remember. it's not as if, even if this charge goes away all of these people just walk out of jail like this is one part of a bunch of charges that a bunch of people face. >> it's true to think about what the impact would be and also just looking ahead. i mean, we are what, 200 days away from another presidential election, which means we are a little more than that away from another integration or certification of electoral account votes so what happens if people feel somehow

emboldened to think, well, you can't charge you under this statute. are there others to follow? is it a deterrent >> a lot of food for >> thought on all these things. hey, devlin, barrett, brian jacobs, james schulte. thank you for holding down the fort with me today and talking through all these issues. there's a lot more ahead, raul at this point out there, you're all armchair lawyers as well. >> hey ahead. remember this famous movies seem >> whereas the poison the battle of wits has begun, it ends when you decide and we both drink and find out who is right and who is dead >> well, hey, what's carry l with? up to now? well, he's got a lot of new projects going on and he's here to talk about them and test his wits. and our rapid-fire quiz. and it's coming up next every weekday morning cnn five things has what you need to get going with

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>> you can take look like i mean, your he talking about hopefully made his power. the whole reason we're here. >> and of course, guy richie's new action pack flick out this week and theaters, the ministry of and gentlemanly warfare gsk much phillips i have a mission. >> i want you to lead >> thank you, sergeant to neutralize the german u-boats in the north atlantic. >> i want to give a very warm welcome to actor kerry always, i'm so excited you're here. i'm so happy to see you again. it's been too long, five years. i know what easy now everyone wants to know how the other let's not tell him what time i am a huge, crazy laura coates fan for those who want to know how to tell him that >> yeah, that's a good one >> i'm not the only one believed me. their legion oh my goodness. >> well, i would bless by >> already have i'm so it's a

whole the whole process to try to undo that. but you know, i'm a huge fan of your work and i'm so excited. you're always on the screen. i love when you have a new project out today is no exception. of course, you've got this new thing knuckles. you're officially part of the sonic universe to tell us about this centric character, you're playing. >> my play. >> crazy >> egotistical championship bowler from reno, nevada is any every other time >> yes. yes, that's a good question yeah. he's he's a guy. he's called pistol pete >> and >> here's the most absurd mustache and goatee and yeah, he loves fan dummy has no connection with anyone other than his fans and himself obviously loves himself. >> there's also the ministry of and warfare. tell me about that because it's very personal for you. you're a fan of history as mothers might not know, you and i get along greatly because we talk so much about whether the world around us and why history is often

repeated if we don't study it. and so anyways, but this movie has a special connection for you and your family. yeah. so my grandfather on my mother's side of the family was in special operations executive and so when i was shooting operation fortunate in turkey with guy ritchie, i asked him what his next project is and he said now you wouldn't know anything about it, so it's about this little-known organization called special operations executive. i got my grandfather was in special operations. have to put me in this movie so that's how it went down. >> that's amazing. it's so when you were taking on this role, that must have been a little bit surreal to know that fiction and reality we're merging. yeah. well, you know, he was my real life here, laura growing up he was dropped into albanian 1943 behind enemy lines to blow up bridges and railways and create a fifth column. so he was really much like the characters in this movie and yeah, he was amazing,

real hero. >> let's talk about princess his bride though, because it is one of my all-time favorite movies. and i tell you, i mean, i quote it all the time. my kids, i make them watch everything from my childhood. so you know that mommy is funny and they can often repeat everything now clearing things like can >> and >> as you wish, translates to love in our household yes. but it's interesting because every great thing that people do in hollywood, someone says oh, let's remake it and change it completely and have a new cast. you've been against that well, you know, yeah, i don't think my theory is if if if it ain't broke, why fix it, laura you know, there was a studio head at one point who had the rights the >> movie, and he tweeted yeah, i have the right to princess bride and i'm in a cast these big, a actors and tweeted back at them there's a shortage are perfect movies in the world. they pity to damage this one. i'm that kind of put a stop to it right there. yeah. that's the perfect response. thank you. i love that life. i can i love that movie so much. i got to tell you, but it hasn't

stopped. maybe not your film, but there is a wind to have sequels, remakes, and beyond i just wonder in a world where we are so often craving creativity. >> yeah >> why do you think there is the re-inventing of the wheel? >> because students don't want to spend money on pna prints and advertising and publicity in advertising. and it is don't want to spend that kind of money it costs so much so they'd rather remake something or do a tv show and reboot it as a movie. because that has a built-in audience. they don't have to spend so much on publicity. >> i think that's not a good enough for you. it's not no, but in the world of ai, the other part of it, how do you see that playing into? the idea of maybe stifling creativity or does it enhance it? absolutely. what i saw your interview with neo the other day and he had a very good point which is going to take money out of his pocket, right? that's an i think it's a terrible thing. it's going to be terrible for writers. i think i thought you

might indulge me as you can do, owe you anything. >> this is a bit of a rapid-fire >> quiz because you know what it's fine, it's time. i'm excited about it, so i want your game right? cool. all right. all right. so it's a multiple choice, okay. so it's pretty easy to think about it as opposed to maybe just a simple thing being, yes or no >> i have never oh, my god. where did these come from? oh, they're right here. >> that work it's a lot, it and is four as you wish. >> oh, >> my gosh, laurie is for inconceivable. >> you hate me. it's my >> phone. >> i can never hate. we banish that word for my household well, thank you. there you go. well, all right. number one question. yes. remember a is as you wish, you could see, do you sing in the shower >> inconceivable? >> it can fit. he had to listen to >> okay. have you ever stopped? poland from your daughter's halloween candy stash

>> inconceivable i she wouldn't let me oh, my god. you're lying. you lied going on. how can you honestly those days are over? i used to be really into candy. it's all gone. >> that's it. >> no, i have a strict diet. yeah. >> do you google yourself, which is an entire foe pot. you do. >> as he wished. sure. just to make sure that everything's kosher, you got mostly dead and i'm not mostly all right how about this? >> is there life on other planets as my uber driver told me today? >> well, i have to say as you wish, carl sagan said it's literally inconceivable given the amount of stars and planets in the cosmos that there isn't some sort of intelligent life you know so i have to go with, as you wish, on that one. yeah. you have >> areas audience at his tendril went over as i exact moment in time. i mean, just hollywood can't scripts carry out. okay. how about this one?

is there one movie you can watch every day? >> yes absolutely. as you wish. >> of course, what is it? >> well, my favorite film of all time, believe it or not, is apocalypse now i got to work with coppola's, so it was a dream for me. and i just think he's one of the great filmmakers of all time besides guy ritchie, of course, if you could, would you want to live forever? >> no inconceivable i think we have a limited time i don't want to live forever. i'd like to spend as much time as i can with my family but i don't know that i want to just be living pass my due date. or i think we all have our due date and when it's time, it's time >> last question >> do you think that if there were are princess bride remake, you would cast me in it >> as you wish. okay. there we go. then you get me know they won't be remixed. i know it

was 11 way. that's fine. now, i want your time, but thank you for that lesson. always such a pleasure to talk to you. wait to watch the series, to watch the films, everyone's always a big fan. i see why. thanks for stopping by. always a joy. thank you >> hey, thank you all for watching our coverage continues there's, new ally in the fight against climate change. >> this is new car business blue carbon. we just need to protect me sure we'll do the rest >> plus cnn fill sunday at nine >> your harvest smart farms in abu dhabi does a technology enabled agribusiness solving global challenges? we're taking proven methods of farming and decoupling the relationship of food production from climate. and instead mirroring it to technology, energy and capital sources >> given its heritage and farming, great infrastructure to build a company and the ability to attract foreign talent of a dhabi made a ton of sense for us our aspiration is

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